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February
February 3, 1962
(A visitor has written to Mother about her difficulties, saying she is the victim of a "collective karma.")
Those karma stories....
I often wonder, very often, whether it helps people to know their karma. I don't think it does.
I mean, if they themselves discover the experiences they had in their past life, then it's part of a whole inner, psychic awakening, and very useful. But if some guru or other comes along and tells you, "Here, this was your karma...." I don't think it's useful, to put it mildly!
If you discover the line of a former life on your own, that's different; it's part of an inner, psychic awakening, and it's very good. But I don'
October 24, 1962
(After listening to Satprem read his manuscript Mother enters into a long meditation.)
He always comes here when you read. And such peace is created when he's here, such peace; something so solid. Don't you feel it?
Yes, I feel the peace.
(very long silence
Mother listens to the peace
the clock chimes)
When he comes like this, when he manifests this way, you get the feeling that all the disorderly vibrations of life are being kept at a distance - everything becomes so peaceful and ... unconditioned: it depends on nothing, absolutely nothing. A peace coming solid and concrete, capable of existing anywhere at all - even on the Chinese border today. [[Three
M o t h e r's A g e n d a 1962-12-28
December 28, 1962
(Satprem reads Mother one last passage from his manuscript:)
Evolution does not move higher and higher, into an ever more heavenly heaven, but deeper and deeper; and each cycle or evolutionary round comes to completion a little further down, a little nearer the Center where the Supreme High and Low, heaven and earth, will finally join. Thus for the two poles
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to actually meet, the pioneer must cleanse the mental, vital, and material middle ground. When the junction is made, not merely mentally and vitally but materially, Spirit will emerge in Matter, in a total supramental being and supramental body, and ...
All earth shall be th
July 7, 1962
(Mother listens to Satprem read some passages from his new book on Sri Aurobindo. The first book, Sri Aurobindo and the Transformation of the World, was judged "abstract and nebulous" by the Paris publisher. Mother comments:)
They probably won't understand anything. For me, the other book was more self-evident.
Yes, for me too. Writing it was more intense; I have no sense of inspiration with this one.
My idea was to stick to the bare facts, to tell stories from Sri Aurobindo's life, the Ashram, things like that. This is still ... (gesture above the head). It's geared to intelligent people interested in things of the spirit.
I don't see how these things could be ski
January
January 9, 1962
(Mother has been unwell the past few days and is receiving almost no one.)
Are you better?
I think so! (Mother laughs) I don't know.
It's strange, these attacks ... bizarre; they seem to have nothing to do with my state of health.
It's a sort of ... decentralization. You see, to form a body all the cells are concentrated by a kind of centripetal force that binds them together. Well, now it's just the opposite! A kind of centrifugal force seems to be dispersing them. When it gets a bit too much I go out of my body; outwardly I seem to faint - but I don't faint, I remain fully conscious. So obviously this creates a sort of ... bizarre disorganization.
August 28, 1962
(It is extremely unfortunate that the beginning of this conversation, which would have thrown a clear light on what follows, was not kept. As far as Satprem remembers, the subject was his sleep. It seems Mother was saying that while his "strolls by the sea" took place during sleep and by passing into another state, for her - and this is where the notes begin - there was no more "sleep" and no more "passing" into another state, from the ordinary physical to the subtle physical, because everything seemed to have become or was becoming one and the same continuous Matter. The true Matter, probably.)
That's one thing that's happening. The two [the ordinary physical and the
January 21, 1962
(The point of departure for this conversation was one of Sri Aurobindo's aphorisms:)
70 - Examine thyself without pity, then thou wilt be more charitable and pitiful to others.
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Very good! (Mother laughs) That's very good.
It's very good for everyone, isn't it?
Especially for those who think they're so superior.
But it really does correspond to something very deep.
This is exactly the experience I have been going through these past few days; since the day before yesterday it seems to have reached its peak, and this morning it developed into a comprehensive vision, an earth-encompassing vision.
It's almost like a reversal of attitude.
August
August 4, 1962
Would you like me to show you something you said last time?
What are you talking about? You don't have anything from me! "Finally," I thought, "for once I didn't say a word!"
You haven't been saying much lately....
(With an ironic smile) I've made a conscious effort not to! Things are progressing, but they won't be interesting till a whole curve is completed. It's better not to talk in the middle of it. So read to me.
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(Mother listens to a passage from Satprem's manuscript concerning the vital and the mechanism by which vibrations enter one's being.)
What you say about all those things entering through the centers is perfectly correct.
Int
Undated (March) 1962
(At the beginning of this conversation Mother has Pavitra called in to discuss certain letters and controversies concerning a teacher at the Ashram School.)
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You know how children get together and play court or school or army ... you know how serious they can be, don't you?
(Pavitra.) Yes, Mother.
And if someone makes a mistake, how he's punished! ... Well, that's exactly how you all seem to me - children at play! That's the trouble. So I just start laughing, I can't take you seriously. You are all too serious to be taken seriously! That's the trouble. I took your papers very seriously; I wanted to be done with it all and I tried.... But a
June
June 2, 1962
(Mother refers to the previous conversation, in which she was looking for the reasons behind the passage from one room to another, from the room of pain to the true room: "I can't catch hold of what makes it happen. What's happening? What's going on?! ")
I had an experience yesterday afternoon that might put us on the track.
It was a very interesting experience - especially interesting for some people because I became aware of certain reincarnations. I was in a state that might be called a "state of knowledge," where I knew things with certainty, without any doubt.
But what's striking - it's connected to what I was telling you the other day - is that I was