August 28, 1962 (It is extremely unfortunate that the beginning of this conversation, which would have thrown a clear light on what follows, was not kept. As far as Satprem remembers, the subject was his sleep. It seems Mother was saying that while his "strolls by the sea" took place during sleep and by passing into another state, for her - and this is where the notes begin - there was no more "sleep" and no more "passing" into another state, from the ordinary physical to the subtle physical, because everything seemed to have become or was becoming one and the same continuous Matter. The true Matter, probably.) That's one thing that's happening. The two [the ordinary physical and the

January 21, 1962 (The point of departure for this conversation was one of Sri Aurobindo's aphorisms:) 70 - Examine thyself without pity, then thou wilt be more charitable and pitiful to others. Page 45 Very good! (Mother laughs) That's very good. It's very good for everyone, isn't it? Especially for those who think they're so superior. But it really does correspond to something very deep. This is exactly the experience I have been going through these past few days; since the day before yesterday it seems to have reached its peak, and this morning it developed into a comprehensive vision, an earth-encompassing vision. It's almost like a reversal of attitude.

August August 4, 1962 Would you like me to show you something you said last time? What are you talking about? You don't have anything from me! "Finally," I thought, "for once I didn't say a word!" You haven't been saying much lately.... (With an ironic smile) I've made a conscious effort not to! Things are progressing, but they won't be interesting till a whole curve is completed. It's better not to talk in the middle of it. So read to me. *** (Mother listens to a passage from Satprem's manuscript concerning the vital and the mechanism by which vibrations enter one's being.) What you say about all those things entering through the centers is perfectly correct. Int

Undated (March) 1962 (At the beginning of this conversation Mother has Pavitra called in to discuss certain letters and controversies concerning a teacher at the Ashram School.) Page 113 You know how children get together and play court or school or army ... you know how serious they can be, don't you? (Pavitra.) Yes, Mother. And if someone makes a mistake, how he's punished! ... Well, that's exactly how you all seem to me - children at play! That's the trouble. So I just start laughing, I can't take you seriously. You are all too serious to be taken seriously! That's the trouble. I took your papers very seriously; I wanted to be done with it all and I tried.... But a

June June 2, 1962 (Mother refers to the previous conversation, in which she was looking for the reasons behind the passage from one room to another, from the room of pain to the true room: "I can't catch hold of what makes it happen. What's happening? What's going on?! ") I had an experience yesterday afternoon that might put us on the track. It was a very interesting experience - especially interesting for some people because I became aware of certain reincarnations. I was in a state that might be called a "state of knowledge," where I knew things with certainty, without any doubt. But what's striking - it's connected to what I was telling you the other day - is that I was

December December 4, 1962 (Mother speaks again of the direct experience of the Supreme she had when Sri Aurobindo left his body:) I don't quite understand. Didn't you have the experience of the Supreme before Sri Aurobindo's departure? Spiritually, you have that experience as soon as you come into contact with the Divine within; mentally, you have the experience as soon as the mind is purified; vitally, you have it as soon as you get out of the ego. But it's the consciousness of the BODY - the consciousness of the cells - which had the experience at that moment. Everything else had had it long before and was constantly aware of it, but the body.... It had been told about it an

July 25, 1962 (Mother listens to Satprem read a passage on mental silence from his manuscript on Sri Aurobindo.) It's very good. It's dull. Page 277 Is this the end of the chapter? What about the next one? That's just it, I don't know. You don't know yet? First I was planning to speak about consciousness, what consciousness is; then I realized it would be better to speak of the vital first.... Before anything can be achieved, the vital has to be quieted. Not necessarily. Personally, I think I would begin with consciousness and deal with the vital afterwards. But if I speak of consciousness it will lead me to speak of the ascent of consciousness, followed

October 16, 1962 Last time you said, "They are burned, or shut up in a box without air and light - fully conscious...." And it is hideously true. But what should be done then? Should people wait, or what? I have looked at this a great deal, but ... socially, conventionally, it's impossible - there's nothing else to do. The living take their stand with the living, naturally. So the only thing I've seen is that, as always, there must be a grace associated with that state, and probably people see ONLY what they are able to see without being upset. I know this because when the body became like that - it was more than three-quarters dead[[Last April. ]] - and people were taking

April 20, 1962 (Letter to Mother from Satprem) April 20, 1962 Sweet Mother, 1) I have received a letter from the publisher, who reiterates his requests for alterations. I am replying to him this very day that I will write another book. I have no idea how I am going to write the book! 2) I have finished the work you gave me. I will bring it to you when you wish, but there is no hurry at all - rest. Your child, Signed: Satprem Page 133

March 6, 1962 So, how are you? I don't know at all where I stand. You're neutral. Yes, I understand nothing at all. You're neutral - dull. That (laughing) makes it hard for you not to get irritated! Why? What has happened? Oh, nothing (Mother laughs), nothing in particular. Just the feeling that you'd jump if someone touched you! Really, I don't understand anything any more. I don't understand. I have absolute faith in Something Else - that's always been there, it doesn't waver. But ... there seems to be no progress. I see nothing ahead of me, nothing behind me, nothing. I don't know, I've already been here a good number of years and I don't feel I've made an inch of