April 3, 1972 (Meeting with the American woman disciple) Things are going fast. The body must learn not to think of itself. That's the only way. As soon as it thinks of itself, its condition gets horrible. But honestly, sincerely, it doesn't think anymore. It is here for a certain work; the work must be done, and that's all. What will be will be - it's true, after all, what will be will be, what does it matter to it! ... It says, "Everything is for the best." It can't stay forever in its present precarious condition; so it must either be transformed, or else lose its form and come undone. Well ... it needn't worry about it, just leave it to the Lord to decide - truly and sincerel

March 1, 1972 (After a long contemplation.) I have a feeling I had something to tell you. Last time too - as soon as you left, I knew what it was. But then it faded again. I don't know why. Page 79

March 8, 1972 (Mother holds a "Transformation" flower in her hand) For whom? (she looks for another flower to give Satprem and Sujata one each) Ten lakhs of rupees have just burned up in Auroville. Ten lakhs! [[About $100,000. ]] Yes. A workshop with machines as well as the godown [storeroom] next door which contained the stock of food. Brrff! That's how it is, like an imperative Order: Don't step out of line or else everything will go wrong. It's become terrible. Another Auroville child died (a one-and-a-half-year-old baby) because his parents didn't have the right attitude. He has just died. That's how it works. It's getting terrible. Terrible. A kind of Pressure

March 29, 1972 (That same day, after Malraux, the conversation took a com pletely different turn, which is why we publish it separately, although under the same date.) Page 109 I had a feeling I had something to give you.... Did they give you a tape-recording? ... I had said something to R. and to Sujata. Is it good? Yes, Mother, yes, it was good! We could perhaps publish it? Itwas about the vision you had of your own transitional body. I simply wanted to make sure you had received it. [[Actually, Satprem was only given the recording with Sujata, not the other one. ]] Yes, Mother, it's extremely interesting.... Did you see anythingnew since that vision o

October 11, 1972 (After inquiring about Satprem's health.) And in general is it better? Yes. I don't know, how do you see it yourself? (Mother laughs) I mean, is it better on the whole? ... Can't you hear? Yes, yes, of course I can hear! You mean the whole of ... Page 294 Of you? Oh, me.... I don't know, I'm a speck of dust ... that is tryingto be a little useful, that's all. (Mother nods her head) But I don't know what "me" is. Whenever I see that "me," itseems quite ridiculous and dark. (Mother laughs) Everything good in me isn't "me" at all. That I understand! So I really don't know. That's very good. Yes, but the person I

December 16, 1972 (Mother gives Satprem an egg) I have nothing.... I've become poor! Then the world is poor! (Mother laughs) How are you? Quite well, Mother, yes, quite well. Inside, I know. What does the world look like to you from that otherconsciousness ? (Mother does not seem to have heard the question) Page 325 As I told you: I am happy - are you satisfied? Oh, yes! Certainly! Well, there you are; it's true. I find you are making progress. Ah, God willing! Shall we go there together? Yes, Mother! But Id like to be able to follow you. (Mother smiles, making a gesture of pulling Satprem with a rope) Hem! ... I'll pull you! G

April 8, 1973 (The next day, as agreed, I came to see Mother. From now on, the attendant was barely visible anymore, but she secretly recorded our conversations. [[Mother was well aware of it and had even said to her son, "She records when she isn't supposed to." ]] The whole time of this meeting is spent in meditation. I keep having the feeling that Mother is trying to build another kind of bridge with me. Towards the end.) Will I see you tomorrow? It seems there are "still too many people".... All right, Mother. And.... (Mother plunges in again) [397] Page 397

March 4, 1972 (Mother has a cold. She remains in contemplation for hall an hour.) Nothing to say? What about you, Mother, how are you? I have a fever. It was mad yesterday, they made me see two hundred people. Yes, it's too much. It's mad. (Mother plunges in again) Nothing? And you, nothing to say? (Mother shakes her head) What time is it? Ten to eleven, Mother. Do you want to stay ten minutes more? Page 79 Yes, if you like, Mother, gladly! Willingly. When I remain quiet like this, I am all right. (Mother plunges in) Page 80

December 13, 1972 Weren't we supposed to have a meditation? A meditation? Yes, Mother, you said you wanted to try an experiment withme. You said you wanted to take me with you into that con sciousness.... Would you like to? Yes, if you'd like to! Well, personally, I am always there. So.... What's difficult for me is to become conscious of the world as it is. What did I tell you last time? You said you wanted to try an experiment. You wanted to takeme with you into that consciousness to see my sensation. Page 324 Ah! Very good. Now? Yes, rather! Give me your hand. (Mother takes Satprem's hand for a moment then plunges in for a full ho

February 26, 1972 (Mother hands Satprem her message for February 29, the fourth anniversary of the "supramental descent" of February 29, 1956.) It is only when the Supramentalmanifests in the body-mind that its presence can be permanent. [[Mother's translation from the French. ]] Mother This message comes from Sri Aurobindo - although it is made to appear as mine. It was Sri Aurobindo who wrote it. All I said was: Sri Aurobindo said "permanent." Page 72 But, Mother, it's also your own experience, isn't it?... Yes, evidently. (Mother laughs silence) But wiser to let it settle in before we talk about it! Once things are established, then....