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... I saw S.G. this morning, the person who went to America, who knew
Kennedy and even spoke to him about the possibility of openly joining
with Russia so as to exert pressure on the world and prevent armed
disputes (he said, "to settle all border and territorial disputes in a
peaceful way," beginning, of course, with China and India). Kennedy had
been enthusiastic. The Russian ambassador had been summoned at once, and
he had telephoned Khrushchev: enthusiastic over the idea (but this
Khrushchev seems to be rather a good man). They were supposed to sort it
out during a meeting at the U.N. At this point, Kennedy makes
off....[[Kennedy was assassinated on November
That was the idea: for a few beings to first attain, here in this
physical world, a level of realization giving them the power to
materialize a supramental being.
I once told you I put a body on a vital being[[. This story is
also part of the lost treasures of 1957 or 1958. ]] - but I couldn't
have made that body material; it would have been impossible: something
is lacking. Something is lacking. Even if it were made visible, it would
probably not be possible to make it permanent - at the slightest
opportunity, it would dematerialize. What we can't get is that
permanence.
It's something Sri Aurobindo and I have discussed ("discussed
Generally, fish in the sea mean Multitude.[[. In a personal context
such as this dream, fish, according to Sri Aurobindo, symbolize the
"vital mind" in constant movement, making all sorts of formations. ]]
But there must be many meanings; I have told you that Buddhism often
uses the image of fish as a symbol.
Symbolisms, mon petit, there are hundreds and hundreds of them.
And people always oppose them, but ultimately they are just different
ways of seeing one and the same thing. According to my experience,
everyone has his own symbolism.
page 124 - Mother's Agenda , volume 6, 14th June - 1965
So far, the meditations with X are much better than last time. Today especially it was very good.
It's a contemplation going right up to the Supreme, with a
constant, continuous Descent: something which doesn't waver the whole
time ('doesn't waver' - I mean doesn't vary), during the whole
meditation. But if I ask him what happened, he'll tell me a little
story!
Yesterday I saw N. and he told me, 'Oh! X had an experience
during the meditation with you this morning.' 'Ah!' I said to myself,
'This is going to be interesting.' (I was wrong to think so, by the way,
even for a quarter of a second.) 'Yes,' he told me, 'he saw what seemed
t
Yet, by analogy (it's not an analogy, it's a correspondence), I can
tell it has to do with what we call "this one" or "that one," this or
that other person. Last night, for instance, I spent a long time with
M. and G. who were frantically calling me (they left from here and have
reached England), I spent a long time with them, but they were no
longer "persons," the puppets we are, it wasn't that! Yet it was them.
The contact was very accurate, very precise, the vibratory qualities
were very clear. And there were forms: forms can be seen, but it no
longer has the same quality. There's something hard, opaque and clumsy
that disappears.
It's the same thing in the tra
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(In the course of the preceding conversation,
Satprem had thought that rather than a subjective change, a change in
one's attitude towards things, there should be an objective change, a
power capable of changing the very substance of things: their property
of hardness, for instance. Here Mother elucidates her previous statement
that "if matter were changeable, it would have changed long ago," a
statement that, at first glance, seemed to shatter all hope of
transformation.)
There is nothing to change! Only the relations between things change....
As an analogy, look at what science has discovered about the
so-called comp
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This morning I got a letter from a little girl who asks me, "What is
consciousness? I asked my teachers, they answered me it was very hard
to explain"! (Mother laughs) So she's asking me. And since she
asked me, I've been looking at it. How can we express it? Do YOU know
how it can be explained? Because the words we use are meaningless.
Spontaneously, I'd say it's the fire or the breath that
carries the whole world. It's the fire that makes everything live -
that makes the chest breathe, that makes the sea heave ...
That's not bad!
What would YOU say?
Here is what I found: it's the cause of existence - the cause
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"Suffocated by the shallowness of the human nature we aspire to the
knowledge that truly knows, the power that truly can, the love that
truly loves."
page 151 , Mother's Agenda , volume 5 - 8th Aug 1964
And it was a world of ... Incidents of this kind bring about a world
of parallels, of experiences and so on. So I began writing (it came, as
always, through successive "sedimentations"). The first sedimentation
gave this:
If you approach me in the hope
of obtaining favours,
you will be
frustrated, because I have no
powers
at my disposal.
It came in French