March 27, 1965 I find that all those meats they have given me to "build me up" make me heavy, especially with the hot days starting again. Couldn't I go back to vegetarian food? It doesn't really have an action on the consciousness, I am absolutely certain of that. Meat can give the body a feeling of great solidity, but in my opinion, solidity is most important, most important - I don't believe in a spirituality that "etherealizes," that's the old falsehood of the past. No, the body's heaviness ... You must not only conceive but understand and accept that the purpose of this heaviness is to repair the body's internal damage, and the body must in fact change this heaviness into a so

June 18, 1965 You remember what I had said? That it would be an improved physical body that would make the transition between the human body and the supramental body?...[[ See conversation of April 17, 1965. ]] Last night Sri Aurobindo told me in his own way that it was correct, that it was true. It was very interesting. Very interesting. Last night, for a long time, we went to all sorts of places unknown to me: towns, countrysides, forests, etc. It lasted a very long time. And once, we were there, near a forest (near a road that crossed the forest) and we were busy and "talking" when all of a sudden, he leaped to his feet.... You know, he never wears any clothes, so to speak; when

August 18, 1965 (Two Americans have brought Mother photos of a former disciple who left for the United States:) Do you remember C.? He has become a great guru there, with a group, and it seems he hypnotizes people.... And two Americans have come here (very nice people, one is a painter, the other is a sculptor); one was in C.'s clutches and it's the other who saved him by keeping him, almost brutally, materially far from C. for three days - the third day, he was free (which does seem to prove that he has a hypnotic influence) - and by telling him, "We're leaving for Pondicherry, you don't need an intermediary between the Mother and you." Because C. plays the great "intermediary" betw

August 28, 1965 (Regarding the conversation of August 21 and the experience of the "transfer of power" to the cellular consciousness:) I said the other day that this aggregate of cells had changed its initiating [["Initiating" in the sense of impelling. ]] power. It struck me as a unique experience, as something that had never occurred before. Unfortunately, it didn't last long. But the experience has left a kind of certitude in the body: it is less uncertain about the future. As if the experience came to tell the body, "This is how things will be." If it stays on, it clearly means immortality. I remember, when I told that experience, it was no longer something personal at all:

October 27, 1965 I have something interesting to tell you.... Sri Aurobindo has come out of meditation and has started "playing." I arrived where I always go to find him, in the subtle physical, last night around 2: 30, and what a crowd there was! Thousands of people. When I arrived there, before going in I met someone, who must have been one of the former politicians, from the time of the revolution, when Sri Aurobindo was involved in politics; he is dead, naturally, but he was there and he told me (he was quite jubilant), he told me (in English), "Sri Aurobindo has come out of meditation, he has started playing!" And there was indeed a feeling that everyone was playing, playing...

March 20, 1965 It seems to be a time of testing (as they say in English, in the sense of a "touchstone"), a test of equanimity - not an equanimity of the soul: a test of integral equanimity, even in the cells of the body. As if someone were saying, "Ha, you want the earth to change; ha, you want Matter to become divine; oh, you want all Falsehood to disappear - very well, let's see if you bear up." There. Because if we rely on what Sri Aurobindo said, time is clearly very short; if the supramental forces have to effectively dominate (maybe not outwardly, but effectively) life on earth in 1967, that doesn't leave much time.... And probably, the nearer we draw to the appointed ho

November 27, 1965 Did you feel anything special on the darshan day [November 24]? No? Sri Aurobindo was there from morning to evening. THERE, you know. For, oh, for more than an hour, he made me live the concrete and living vision, as it were, of the condition of humanity and the various layers of humanity in relation to the new or supramental creation. And it was marvelously clear and concrete and living. There was the whole humanity that isn't quite animal anymore, that has benefited from mental development and created a certain harmony in its life - a vital, artistic, literary harmony - and the vast majority of which live satisfied with life. They have caught a sort of

March 24, 1965 Anything new? Sujata had rather a bad dream: she came into a house which some people were supposed to keep a watch on, to protect, but no one had kept watch and so enemies had got inside. Sujata entered the house and found a room in which Sri Aurobindo was, and Sri Aurobindo's foot had been injured - he was groaning. He had been hurt by the adversaries that had been allowed to enter the house. Seeing Sri Aurobindo injured, she ran off to fetch you. Maybe it's quite simply the image of what happened on February 11? The foot means something physical. I think that's what it is, just the symbolic image of what happened. It's not something that will go on?

December 4, 1965 (Mother was quite unwell the day before, and still looks very tired.) Yesterday was a very difficult day. And I am not quite all right yet. I can't hear, can't see, I am in an awful state. (Satprem persuades Mother not to work - long meditation) I can remain like this indefinitely. Once I am in it, it's fine, it's comfortable. But anyway, we can do Page 317 our translation.... The difficulty is that I can't see and can't hear - I am not there! Because as for me, I have no reason to get out of it [the meditation]. This way I feel the world is fine at last! When I get out of it, the grating starts. When I am there, the world and everything is qu

April 28, 1965 Mother looks absorbed ... Ultimately, until one has the power to do everything, one knows nothing. This has been my experience these last few days, increasingly clearly. As long as you don't have the power to do everything, that is, as long as you don't have the supreme Power, you know nothing. And the supreme Power is ... Let me make myself clearer (Mother smiles). Someone is dying from cancer in America. I said to that someone that what would happen would be the best for his soul; I said it at a time when the so-called human knowledge still imagined it could cure him. He has lost his speech, but not consciousness - neither hearing nor consciousness (it's a c