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July 22, 1970
(The following conversation is a first and highly instructive
outline
of the phenomenon that gave birth to all the religions of
the
world, a phenomenon that will try to crystallize once again
after
Mother's departure.)
I have something about this Tamil Swami who had that experience of the body's transformation.... You remember this Swami
Ramalingam who had that vision of the "Grace-Light"? You
made a few remarks, part of which I passed on to the person who
had asked the question.... And I've raised a storm.
Oh, why?
Not with this good man [Ramalingam's Tamil disciple], not atall, but with A. [[An old disciple, author of several books about Sri A
March 25, 1970
Things continue to be very difficult. They're getting more and more
complicated and difficult, and at the same time, the power
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112
is growing greater and greater, it's even surprising.
But, for people who like peace and quiet (laughing), it's troublesome!
Do you have something? Have you brought something? Nothing to say?
There's a letter from the marquis, that friend of mine. He isasking
for your help....
What for?
To change his life and get rid of all his material and
financialproblems there.
I thought he was very rich?
But he wants to get rid of everything.
Oh!... Let him give it to the Ashram! (Mother laughs)
H
March 13, 1970
(Satprem had written Mother a rather cross letter because she
had been told some malicious gossip about him, just as she had
been told - to what end we do not know - that his friend, the
Marquis B., was a "spy." Satprem
understood nothing of those
jealousies and was
surprised that Mother could even listen to
such
tattle. In fact, Mother did not actually "listen" but worked
on
all the elements that came to her. That was her "sordid battle
field," as she called it. Those sad incidents are only the sign that
the
atmosphere around Mother was becoming ... strange.)
Satprem, my dear child,
I do not believe what Udar tells me, nor what anyone whosoev
August 12, 1970
Can't speak ... (Mother points to her mouth and throat).
(Meditation
till the end)
All this ...
(Mother shakes her head)
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January 10, 1970
(Despite its minor character, we publish the beginning of
this
conversation, as it reveals some of the difficulties Mother
had
to struggle with.)
... And this is a translation: someone who was here (he's gone now) translated it. Its probably not worth much, I don't know. I don't know whom I should give it to. When you have nothing to do ...
Mother, the problem is that we can't get the translations published at the Press, things aren't moving. I have five books by Sri
Aurobindo ready, and nothing is moving.
They can't manage to do their work.
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But then, they make promises and never manage to keep them.
Oh, that's troublesome
January 14, 1970
I have a question to ask you for the Bulletin. It's about this
notein which you said: "Why do men want to worship? It would
be
much better to become than to worship."
(Mother laughs)
Could we add to this the comment you made last time? Youadded,
"It is out of laziness to change that people worship."
It's true. But it's harsh! (Mother laughs)
Do you think we should?
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(silence)
But then we should add: "One may not worship ONLY on condition that one changes." - Many want neither to change nor to worship!
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January 3, 1970
(Continuation of the conversation of 31 December 1969
about Auroville and the Matrimandir.)
Mother, I told Paolo [the Italian architect] to come, he is
waiting
outside.
Yes.... There is an interesting thing.
For a long time I had been feeling something, then we spoke about it the other day, and I SAW ... I told R. [Auroville's architect] about it, I asked him to see Paolo, and I also told him that I had seen what should be done. Naturally, he didn't say no, he said yes to everything, but I felt he wasn't too keen.... But here is what happened. I clearly saw - very, very distinctly saw, which means it was like that, and it still IS like that, it's ther
July 11, 1970
Someone sent me a letter on the body's transformation, if youare
interested.
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Let's see....
It seems that a Tamil yogi [Swami Ramalingam] of this region,who lived around 1850, had experiences, which he described in
a poem and appear rather connected.... Experiences of the trans
formation of the skeleton, bones, etc. It's a Tamilian who sent me
this letter, asking me to put the question to you.
All right.
"The Mother may throw light on the nature and extentof the transformation the Swami had in the last part
of his life. The Swami often declared affirming the
transformation and deathlessness of his body by the
power of what
July 18, 1970
(Mother begins with the translation of two letters of
Sri Aurobindo for the next issue of the Bulletin.)
"It is much easier for the Sadhak [disciple] byfaith in the Mother to get free from illness than
for the Mother to keep free - because the Mother
by the very nature of her work had to identify
herself with the Sadhaks, to support all their
difficulties, to receive into herself all the poison
in their nature ...
Very kind of them! (Mother laughs)
"... to take up besides all the difficulties of theuniversal earth-Nature, including the possibility
of death and disease in order to fight them out.
If she had not done that, not a single Sadhak
September 16, 1970
(Mother looks much better. After giving "Transformation"
flowers, she goes into a long peaceful contemplation.)
Peace has returned.... Still now and then, a tension.
(long silence)
Do you have anything to ask?
No, Mother.
(Mother goes into a contemplation again)
No questions?
The impression is that the Power [near Mother] is growing moreand
more powerful.
(after a silence)
People who had fallen ill have recovered. [[In particular Mothers attendant, Vasudha, who was operated on for cancer in Bombay (and is still there). Unfortunately, she will never resume her work near Mother. ]]
But has something begun to move from s