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August 31, 1965
(Regarding the conversations of August 21 and 28 on the "transfer of power":)
How do you define this physical mind, the one that underwent the transfer of power?
That isn't the physical mind. The physical mind, it's a long time since ... It is the material mind - not even the material mind: the mind OF MATTER [[Mother insisted on and specified this point later. ]]! It is the mental substance that belongs to Matter itself, to the cells. That's what was formerly called "the spirit of the form," when it was said that mummies kept their bodies intact as long as the spirit of the form persisted. [[In a former Playground Talk (of March 10, 1951), Mother said regarding th
September 29, 1965
It's going well, isn't it?
I think so....
You're surprised that I tell you "it's going well"? (Mother laughs) It's going well: they are displaying their hypocrisy, everyone is forced to see it.[[Mother is probably alluding (in addition to the cease-fire violations by Pakistan) to a declaration from Delhi that India considered as obsolete the treaty signed in 1954 by Nehru recognizing China's sovereignty over Tibet. (That "declaration" did not hold for long.) ]] I am receiving good indications. They keep on fighting over there. Look, another new paper (Mother holds out an extract from a letter of Sri Aurobindo). It's very interesting:
"For instance, India i
March 10, 1965
(Mother first reads a note relating to the events of February 11:)
Behind all the destructions - the big destructions of Nature - earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, cyclones, floods, etc., or the human destructions - wars, revolutions, riots - there is always Kali's power and upon earth Kali works for the hastening of the terrestrial progress.
Whatever is Divine not only in its essence but also in its realisation is above these destructions and cannot be touched by them.
In all cases the extent of the damage gives the measure of the imperfection and must be taken as a lesson for indispensable progress.
Yes, it's the sequel to what you said the other day: those vi
December 30, 1965
(Letter from Mother to Satprem, in answer to a letter from Satprem in which he said he was "half dissolved" and asked on which road he was or whether he was on any road at all, for he had "no sign" that he was moving forward or going anywhere.)
Thursday morning
Satprem, my dear little child,
We will talk about that tomorrow morning.
In any event, you are closer to me now than you have ever been.
With all my tenderness
Signed: Mother
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August 4, 1965
(While sorting old notes of Mother's, Satprem comes across the following passage:)
"Always listen to what the Lord of Truth has to tell you and let your action be guided by Him."
That's good.
I often wonder.... We are indeed told that we should leave our action to the Lord, but shouldn't we help him a bit?!
(Mother laughs) He certainly must need help!
No, it sounds like a joke, but the truth is that He WANTS US to help Him, He doesn't at all want us to be passive and inert.
He wants us to help Him.
Because when one is immobile up there, I feel it as a blank, but a blank in which nothing happens.
No! It's admirable. But it's admirable provided you do
December 15, 1965
The day before, Mother was
visited by the King of Nepal.
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I have no roses left (Mother looks for a flower for Satprem), they took everything!
But this king[[King Mahendra and Queen Ratna. ]] is a remarkable man. He has a remarkable history, but it would be too long to tell.... I was in contact with him before (gesture of mental communication), and I had said, "I won't speak" - and I didn't speak. When he came he looked at me, then suddenly (he was standing), he remained standing in meditation, he closed his eyes and remained motionless. And then he asked me his questions mentally - I received them. And the answer came from up above, magnificent. A
March 27, 1965
I find that all those meats they have given me to "build me up" make me heavy, especially with the hot days starting again. Couldn't I go back to vegetarian food?
It doesn't really have an action on the consciousness, I am absolutely certain of that. Meat can give the body a feeling of great solidity, but in my opinion, solidity is most important, most important - I don't believe in a spirituality that "etherealizes," that's the old falsehood of the past.
No, the body's heaviness ... You must not only conceive but understand and accept that the purpose of this heaviness is to repair the body's internal damage, and the body must in fact change this heaviness into a so
June 18, 1965
You remember what I had said? That it would be an improved physical body that would make the transition between the human body and the supramental body?...[[ See conversation of April 17, 1965. ]] Last night Sri Aurobindo told me in his own way that it was correct, that it was true. It was very interesting.
Very interesting.
Last night, for a long time, we went to all sorts of places unknown to me: towns, countrysides, forests, etc. It lasted a very long time. And once, we were there, near a forest (near a road that crossed the forest) and we were busy and "talking" when all of a sudden, he leaped to his feet.... You know, he never wears any clothes, so to speak; when
August 18, 1965
(Two Americans have brought Mother photos of a former disciple who left for the United States:)
Do you remember C.? He has become a great guru there, with a group, and it seems he hypnotizes people.... And two Americans have come here (very nice people, one is a painter, the other is a sculptor); one was in C.'s clutches and it's the other who saved him by keeping him, almost brutally, materially far from C. for three days - the third day, he was free (which does seem to prove that he has a hypnotic influence) - and by telling him, "We're leaving for Pondicherry, you don't need an intermediary between the Mother and you." Because C. plays the great "intermediary" betw
August 28, 1965
(Regarding the conversation of August 21 and the experience of the "transfer of power" to the cellular consciousness:)
I said the other day that this aggregate of cells had changed its initiating [["Initiating" in the sense of impelling. ]] power. It struck me as a unique experience, as something that had never occurred before. Unfortunately, it didn't last long. But the experience has left a kind of certitude in the body: it is less uncertain about the future. As if the experience came to tell the body, "This is how things will be."
If it stays on, it clearly means immortality.
I remember, when I told that experience, it was no longer something personal at all: